Analytics and … investment banking?


For the second time in a month, an investment banker called me to talk about web analytics. What with mergers, acquisitions and IPOs (and of course, the development of the industry), it’s on their radar now.

His questions were so interesting, I wish I had been taking notes like I was when the big WA firms spoke at the Summit in Santa Barbara. In any case, here is what I can remember.

Investment Banker starts with an easy question: Who is the best customer for packages like CoreMetrics and WebSideStory and Omniture?
Robbin: E-commerce. Companies who sell on line can prove the ROI of the package quickly, although they have plenty of issues with multi-channel purchasing – the customer sees it on the web and buys it in the store. Companies who are doing lead generation have a harder time proving the ROI (Robbin neglects to say, especially when the company has to touch the lead many times before the sale is closed.) Companies who are doing on-line content, like CNN and the, should be able to prove the same kind of ROI as an e-commerce company because they are selling online, it’s just that they are selling advertising.

Investment Banker
: What will it take for WA to become more pervasive?
Robbin: People really won’t buy *and use* their web analytics until it is in their financial interest. So if you’re a content site, and a big advertiser comes to you wanting a deeper understanding of your reader behavior before signing a new contract, suddenly, it’s in your interest to have better analytics.

Investment Banker: Research firms are predicting that the WA space will grow to about $1B in five years in marketing capitalization. Do you think that’s enough marketing cap to support the number of current WA firms or will we see lots of consolidation?
Robbin: After business school, I went into direct marketing, not investment banking. You can run the numbers as well as I can or better.(Why do investment bankers waste time asking questions that they are in a better position to answer?) From where I sit, I just know that I would *love* to see consolidation in the industry so that we can do a better job with standards and so that my company doesn’t have to keep learning new software packages. Probably not the answer he wanted to hear.

Investment Banker: Which of the big firms have done a really good job investing in cutting edge technology, enabling themselves to leapfrog the competition?
Robbin: Well, WSS has made some interesting purchases with Atomz and Visual Sciences. But let me tell you what I really think, and I sincerely doubt you will hear this answer from other people because the individuals who are successfully implementing big packages have IT staffs that can customize them. So here’s what I think: I don’t think that cooler technology is going to rule here. The real problem is that you currently can’t get your money’s worth out of big packages without creating those custom evars and s.props and VISTA rules. Currently, buying a big package and then not having an IT staff that can and will customize it, and of course, an analyst, is like buying a Porche and driving it in first. (I get to use this analogy over and over again. Many thanks to the individual who gave it to me.) I think that those companies will have a hard time expanding really far until they can create the ability to customize without the analyst needing to be a javascript expert.

Investment Banker: Will BI firms get into the WA game?
Robbin. Sure. But the really important thing that will happen is, data will be more seamless, so that it can flow between your BI and WA and CRM. Easily, not with a 4 month integration project.

It’s probably just as well that I can’t remember everything we talked about. Leave the guy something to write about in his research report, now that my four readers have all learned what I said.

Robbin Steif

Our founder, Robbin Steif, started LunaMetrics in 2004. She is a graduate of Harvard College and the Harvard Business School, and has served on the Board of Directors for the Digital Analytics Association. Robbin is a winner of a BusinessWomen First award, as well as a Diamond Award for business leadership. In 2017, Robbin sold her company to HS2 Solutions and has since retired from LunaMetrics.

  • Timothy Seward

    Sorry for the investment banker interrogation. I was the one who told the Omniture analyst to call you about a month ago. I knew you’d have some bothersome yet informed answers since you know SC!


  • Wulff

    Great post.

    I totally agree: Easy customization is key + we’ll see a business software convergence happening pretty soon > BI/WA/CRM/MRM/EMM melting together.

  • Sam

    I’m sure this industry will be seeing lots of consolidation.

  • I’ve been reading a lot about how numerical analytics and investment models no longer work during this recession. Even ratings published by Std&Poor are seen with skepticism over its lack of dynamism and ability to accurately pin-down risks. I’m seeing that postmodernism has also taken its toll on the positivist fields.

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